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Infinite Loops

Nov 4, 2021

Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman of Ogilvy Group, joins us for an almost unprecedented third appearance on Infinite Loops. Our discussion with Rory centers on:

  • The marketing of Saint Paul and religious leaders.
  • Humor as a vehicle for effective messaging.
  • The advantages and drawbacks of remote work.
  • “Category” vs. “brand” advertising.
  • And MUCH more!

Follow Rory on Twitter at and get his must-read book 'Alchemy: The Dark Art and Curious Science of Creating Magic in Brands, Business, and Life' from